Comments on: The J/80 http://www.j24blog.com/2007/10/14/the-j80/ Tue, 02 Mar 2010 22:22:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Bryan http://www.j24blog.com/2007/10/14/the-j80/comment-page-1/#comment-604 Bryan Sat, 29 Dec 2007 05:40:35 +0000 http://www.j24blog.com/2007/10/14/the-j80/#comment-604 I think the J/24 vs. J/80 numbers aren't as different as they first appear although the two boats definitely feel different. Both boats are very fun to sail. The roughly 3100# all up J-24 weight should really be matched to the near 3300# for the J/80. Also the J/80 doesn't sail with a 150% genoa making the SA 310 to 337 sq ft to displacement nearly identical. The interesting thing that I'm seeing in the polars is the how the J/24 supposedly can point higher than the J/80 and carry a little more speed. Is this really true? Finally, looking at the PY numbers, it looks like the J/80 is rated 9% faster than the J/24. Would I rather have a J/80 over a J/24? Probably. Certainly a used J/80 is typically more expensive. I guess it depends on whether or not I'm racing on the sea in the Bristol Channel (Wales) or an inland lake in America. One local J/80 on our lake is constantly catching floating weeds on the keel while the J/24 seems to more easily shed them. I can tell you the fun factor on our local lake is still leaning to the J/24 due to the numbers. For what it's worth... cheers! I think the J/24 vs. J/80 numbers aren’t as different as they first appear although the two boats definitely feel different. Both boats are very fun to sail. The roughly 3100# all up J-24 weight should really be matched to the near 3300# for the J/80. Also the J/80 doesn’t sail with a 150% genoa making the SA 310 to 337 sq ft to displacement nearly identical.

The interesting thing that I’m seeing in the polars is the how the J/24 supposedly can point higher than the J/80 and carry a little more speed. Is this really true?

Finally, looking at the PY numbers, it looks like the J/80 is rated 9% faster than the J/24.

Would I rather have a J/80 over a J/24? Probably. Certainly a used J/80 is typically more expensive. I guess it depends on whether or not I’m racing on the sea in the Bristol Channel (Wales) or an inland lake in America. One local J/80 on our lake is constantly catching floating weeds on the keel while the J/24 seems to more easily shed them. I can tell you the fun factor on our local lake is still leaning to the J/24 due to the numbers.

For what it’s worth… cheers!

]]> By: peter http://www.j24blog.com/2007/10/14/the-j80/comment-page-1/#comment-64 peter Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:56:29 +0000 http://www.j24blog.com/2007/10/14/the-j80/#comment-64 I just checked at Seattle sailing, and they have 2 J80s and one J105 if you can pay $330/mo and $395 to join (or know somebody). They also have 4 J24s. I just checked at Seattle sailing, and they have 2 J80s and one J105 if you can pay $330/mo and $395 to join (or know somebody). They also have 4 J24s.

]]> By: Noj http://www.j24blog.com/2007/10/14/the-j80/comment-page-1/#comment-63 Noj Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:48:19 +0000 http://www.j24blog.com/2007/10/14/the-j80/#comment-63 A lot of people have been drooling over the J/80 for years now. They really are fun boats, and the assymetric spin setup is awesome , I think specially because of the lighter winds we tend to get here. The main problem seems to be the immense momentum behind the J/24 in Seattle and the market economics. Not everyone can sell their J/24 at once, because the market would "crash" and no one will want to anyway because the J/80 fleet is so small. I know the Seattle Sailing Club had at least one J/80 in the past years, so there's one you can take out and play with if you know anyone in Seattle Sailing! A lot of people have been drooling over the J/80 for years now. They really are fun boats, and the assymetric spin setup is awesome , I think specially because of the lighter winds we tend to get here.

The main problem seems to be the immense momentum behind the J/24 in Seattle and the market economics. Not everyone can sell their J/24 at once, because the market would “crash” and no one will want to anyway because the J/80 fleet is so small.

I know the Seattle Sailing Club had at least one J/80 in the past years, so there’s one you can take out and play with if you know anyone in Seattle Sailing!

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