Comments on: Pin End Collision http://www.j24blog.com/2008/07/21/pin-end-collision/ Sun, 02 Oct 2011 03:57:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Eric http://www.j24blog.com/2008/07/21/pin-end-collision/comment-page-1/#comment-1012 Eric Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:57:45 +0000 http://www.j24blog.com/?p=258#comment-1012 WRT Jos' reply, Rule 19 applies as well. WRT to Nojan and reading and writing on this blog more often, this is what we used to do with the listserve when it was originally conceived and begun. You could direct people to this site via the listserve as I think they both have their purpose. Agree, more communication about this type of thing is essential for us all to learn, stay current with the rules and become better sailors! WRT Jos’ reply, Rule 19 applies as well.

WRT to Nojan and reading and writing on this blog more often, this is what we used to do with the listserve when it was originally conceived and begun. You could direct people to this site via the listserve as I think they both have their purpose. Agree, more communication about this type of thing is essential for us all to learn, stay current with the rules and become better sailors!

]]> By: peter http://www.j24blog.com/2008/07/21/pin-end-collision/comment-page-1/#comment-1001 peter Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:13:31 +0000 http://www.j24blog.com/?p=258#comment-1001 I believe that they were not intending to pass astern of the starboard boats. My best option may have been to tack and gybe around and take it from there... I believe that they were not intending to pass astern of the starboard boats. My best option may have been to tack and gybe around and take it from there…

]]> By: Jos http://www.j24blog.com/2008/07/21/pin-end-collision/comment-page-1/#comment-1000 Jos Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:23:58 +0000 http://www.j24blog.com/?p=258#comment-1000 Rule 18 applies! The starboard tackers were an obstruction for both you and TR There is no need for "about to round", the rules specify that boats only have to "pass the obstruction on the same side" TR as outside boat has to give you room to pass astern, if she is going to pass astern as well, Rule 18 only is switched off for the "Starting mark" and only when boats approach them to start (until they have passed). There's no two lengths from the pin-end involved. Mind, TR only has to give you room if she goes astern herself. If she decides to go up head to wind, she may, she is still r.o.w. boat. Rule 18 applies!
The starboard tackers were an obstruction for both you and TR
There is no need for “about to round”, the rules specify that boats only have to “pass the obstruction on the same side”
TR as outside boat has to give you room to pass astern, if she is going to pass astern as well,

Rule 18 only is switched off for the “Starting mark” and only when boats approach them to start (until they have passed).
There’s no two lengths from the pin-end involved.

Mind, TR only has to give you room if she goes astern herself. If she decides to go up head to wind, she may, she is still r.o.w. boat.

]]> By: peter http://www.j24blog.com/2008/07/21/pin-end-collision/comment-page-1/#comment-999 peter Fri, 25 Jul 2008 04:17:42 +0000 http://www.j24blog.com/?p=258#comment-999 You should post more often. You could have saved us some trouble! You should post more often. You could have saved us some trouble!

]]> By: Nojan http://www.j24blog.com/2008/07/21/pin-end-collision/comment-page-1/#comment-998 Nojan Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:13:40 +0000 http://www.j24blog.com/?p=258#comment-998 Great write-up. You know, the same thing happened to us two years ago, and I learned this lesson the hard way too. The 150% Genoa on the J/24s is just so big, it totally dominates the boat. The same thing happened to us, actually Tundra was involved with that one too. We tried following them, on port tack at the start in this whole the size of 5 boats, they made it , we didn't. I tacked away, ended up in irons, but we didn't release the jib, it got backwinded and we got blown into Rick on Rajin Cajun. he was extremely nice about the whole thing as well, but, we learned this one. I think I better read and write on this blog more often :-) Great write-up. You know, the same thing happened to us two years ago, and I learned this lesson the hard way too. The 150% Genoa on the J/24s is just so big, it totally dominates the boat.

The same thing happened to us, actually Tundra was involved with that one too. We tried following them, on port tack at the start in this whole the size of 5 boats, they made it , we didn’t.

I tacked away, ended up in irons, but we didn’t release the jib, it got backwinded and we got blown into Rick on Rajin Cajun. he was extremely nice about the whole thing as well, but, we learned this one.

I think I better read and write on this blog more often :-)

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